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Author:  DarthRobot [ Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Discrimination
Hear me, students of Hogwarts! Our very own Priggo Seville and Felien Siana have been the very unfortunate victims of discrimination!

<a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=509713&in_page_id=1770">Click here for the Daily Ma- Prophet article.</a>

Their own eccentricities have led to them being thrown off a bus! How could two young wizards face such an injustice? It's seems society isn't so tolerant of others as people would have you believe!


At the time of press Stan Shunpike and Ernie Prang were unavailable for comment.


I saw this in the paper today and thought of you two lovelys.
Author:  Rakashak [ Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:37 pm ]
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Oh no! How unfortunate! I never trusted that Stan Shunpike anyway...

I totally thought of Priggo and Felien after reading that as well!
Author:  Freydis_The_Valkyrie [ Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:00 pm ]
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*cough* You know I tend to think the bus driver is in the right. It's not "culture" it's a fetish, and fetishes belong at home, not out in public.

But then I have been accused by our resident leash-wearer if being close-minded.
Author:  Felien [ Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:01 pm ]
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^^;

Luckily, I haven't ridden a bus in years.
Author:  Rakashak [ Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:05 pm ]
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Freydis_The_Valkyrie wrote:
It's not "culture" it's a fetish, and fetishes belong at home, not out in public.

Then they should have a national fetish day!
And anyways, I wonder what fetishes the bus driver has?
Author:  Felien [ Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:11 pm ]
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Freydis_The_Valkyrie wrote:
*cough* You know I tend to think the bus driver is in the right. It's not "culture" it's a fetish, and fetishes belong at home, not out in public.

But then I have been accused by our resident leash-wearer if being close-minded.

*of


It's just a [censored] leash.
If they had been going around scantily clad or something, then yes, I agree.
But a collar/leash is essentially just a necklace. ;>.>

If there was something else about it that they left unmentioned, that would somehow directly affect others (barking? crawling around?), then yes. It should likely stay at home.
But it's just a leash!
Author:  RT [ Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:14 pm ]
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Freydis_The_Valkyrie wrote:
*cough* You know I tend to think the bus driver is in the right. It's not "culture" it's a fetish, and fetishes belong at home, not out in public.

But then I have been accused by our resident leash-wearer if being close-minded.


*claps*

Not saying I'd have done the same thing in the bus driver's shoes...but I respect his right to do it. :)
Author:  Rakashak [ Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:16 pm ]
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Felien wrote:
If they had been going around scantily clad or something, then yes, I agree.
But a collar/leash is essentially just a necklace. ;>.>

If there was something else about it that they left unmentioned, that would somehow directly affect others (barking? crawling around?), then yes. It should likely stay at home.
But it's just a leash!


I agree! ^^ I mean, they weren't exactly doing anything to harm or disturb anyone. If they had been doing the above, I would be with the bus driver's opinion.
Author:  Felien [ Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:25 pm ]
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Tonic wrote:

*claps*

Not saying I'd have done the same thing in the bus driver's shoes...but I respect his right to do it. :)


Thats the thing, though. -does- he have the right to do it?

If he had asked them in a less offensive manner, chances are they might have taken it off for the time being.
I, at least, would have taken it off if asked in a reasonable manner. But then, I don't know them. They might not have.

If he had asked due to safety regulations, it would be a different matter, and entirely in his right.

But:
He shoved me off the bus. He called us freaks and he called Tasha a dog. He said, 'We don't let freaks and dogs like you on'. He basically grabbed my T-shirt and slammed me backwards.

If he had handled that differently, I might be inclined to agree with him. But to deny them just out of spite?


Edit: I'd love to argue further, but I'm heading to work. ;>.>
I'll check back later via my PSP.
Author:  Laucian1 [ Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:34 pm ]
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*nods* The bus driver needs to up his meds. And as for the leash...meh. I used to walk myself on a leash. Now that'll get you strange looks at the amusement park.
Author:  Rakashak [ Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:36 pm ]
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This is a fun topic to argue on!

I would have taken the leash off it was for health and safety or if asked nicely and given a sensible reason.
I think the bus driver was wrong to have pushed them off the bus or have called them freaks, or a dog. Just because people like to dress differently, or act in a different way, doesn't mean they should be discrminated like they were.
Author:  RT [ Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:36 pm ]
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Definitely poorly handled...don't think anyone would question that.

Would I let a stranger wearing a leash into my car? Heck no...for the same reason they don't let you wear long necklaces or chains into courthouses anymore.

And who's arguing? :P Two sides voicing opinions...good stuff.
Author:  Templar [ Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:40 pm ]
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Though I agree with the fetish comment, I have to say Fel's point speaks much louder. The Bus driver is in the wrong here. if you agree with the lifestyle/fetish/whatever or not, you shouldn't treat people like that no matter what.


Personally it sounds like the driver turned it personal really quick. (maybe his kid dresses goth or something *shrug*)
Author:  Rakashak [ Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:41 pm ]
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Tonic wrote:
Would I let a stranger wearing a leash into my car? Heck no...for the same reason they don't let you wear long necklaces or chains into courthouses anymore.


If the bus driver actually asked politely if they would remove the leash, then it would be a different story.

So yeah, for once in my life I'm enjoying aruging! Yay!
Author:  Laucian1 [ Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:43 pm ]
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It doesn't sound like much of an argument. We're all just saying the same thing over and over. The bus driver should have handled it better, and hopefully the two would take off the leash for the time being.
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