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 Post Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:47 pm 
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Okay, I guess we are just saying the same things again, especially me, I feel like a parrot...
And yeah, topic is settled I suppose.
Bad bus driver.


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True, the bus driver could have handled it better, however I disagree with those kids calling it a "culture". It's not a culture. It's a fetish. True there is a subculture based on fetishes, but they generally have the good taste to keep such things in private, where they belong. Walking yourself is something you do to get a rise out of other people. *shrugs* However it's obvious the parents of these kids didn't teach them a thing about acting decently in public. Don't give me that crap about "it wasn't harming anybody". It's putting a perversion on public display. And that does harm somebody.


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Gee i post this for a bit of fun and this happens!

Your punishment is to buy me the Victorian bathing costume that Sweeny Todd wears.

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I don't really find it perverse, though. And as the kind of perversion, I know perverse. As far as we know, there's nothing sexual about it. Well, I'm sure there is on some level, but they aren't flagrantly displaying the sexual aspect of it.

At least it wasn't something like this.

http://brad.pettifogging.com/v/image_011.jpeg.html

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DarthRobot wrote:
Gee i post this for a bit of fun and this happens!

Your punishment is to buy me the Victorian bathing costume that Sweeny Todd wears.


Buy it yourself. :roll:

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I don't really find it perverse, though. And as the kind of perversion, I know perverse. As far as we know, there's nothing sexual about it. Well, I'm sure there is on some level, but they aren't flagrantly displaying the sexual aspect of it.


Ohyle. It's a public display of D&S. True it's not showing the sexual side of it, but it's still a public display of a fetish.

I stand by my statement.


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DarthRobot wrote:
Gee i post this for a bit of fun and this happens!

Your punishment is to buy me the Victorian bathing costume that Sweeny Todd wears.


Woohoo!! Where shall I have it sent?

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Right, right... we all have fairly well developed ideas on matters like this.

Keep in mind we are only getting the brief bits on the news. We don't know the WHOLE story. *Shifty eyes*

And I, for one, wouldn't want to explain that to my kids at this point. Not too mention, they'd be begging me for the next week to put them on leashes so we could "pretend" they were dogs too (which is possibly illegal in some places). *Rolls eyes*

Either way, I am vaguely surprised Dumbledore/McGonagal allow Priggo and Felien the freedom to display their leash in the Entrance Hall. *Can of worms*


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Reebober, it -was- brought to Priggo's attention by a professor, which is why she wasn't on a leash for the Yule ball. Or anytime since.


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Tonic wrote:
DarthRobot wrote:
Gee i post this for a bit of fun and this happens!

Your punishment is to buy me the Victorian bathing costume that Sweeny Todd wears.


Woohoo!! Where shall I have it sent?

As long as you don't post pictures.
Or you might offend someone with your fetish.


Man, it's annoying to type on a PSP...


Last edited by Felien on Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:58 pm, edited 2 times in total.

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Freydis_The_Valkyrie wrote:
It's not "culture" it's a fetish, and fetishes belong at home, not out in public.


It's not a culture? There are thousands of people in my home state of
Arizona who would disagree with you.

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Not saying I'd have done the same thing in the bus driver's shoes...but I respect his right to do it.


Funny, considering the bus driver most certainly didn't have the right to do
that.

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Would I let a stranger wearing a leash into my car? Heck no.


You keep speaking as if it was the bus driver's vehicle, or if he had the
right to discriminate against whoever he chooses. I'm very glad that you
happen to be wrong, because there are more people with that leash
"fetish" than you might think.

Freydis_The_Valkyrie wrote:
Stuff.


Good thing you're wrong. I understand the thought of a woman willingly
being led around on a leash makes a powerful, independent woman like
you furious. Grr! But it's not up to you whether something is a lifestyle or
not. It's pretty clear from your argument that you think it's not a culture
simply because you find it distasteful. Good thing for humanity that you're
completely wrong, huh? The driver can't discriminate against even those
with bad taste. I could walk onto the bus with a KKK uniform and a black
bus driver would -have- to let me on.

As for Reebober's comment about her children; nobody has the right to
not be offended.

People do have the right to be allowed the same fair treatment, like say,
being let onto a bus.

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Freydis_The_Valkyrie wrote:
True, the bus driver could have handled it better, however I disagree with those kids calling it a "culture". It's not a culture. It's a fetish.


*Clears throat*
There's one thing I've learned in Theory of Knowledge class; what culture is. A culture is really just a group of people that you fit in to. Anyone can have a multitude of cultures.
I fit into my school's culture, I also fit into my nerdy group of friends' culture. Hell, all of us that play HP make up our very own HP culture.
As long as there are other people that use leashes, collars, harnesses, etc, they all make up their own culture.
So yes, though it may be a fetish, the fetish is its own culture.

And also, as a bus is known as public transportation, I don't think the driver had the right to not let them on. I don't think he even would have had the right to ask them to take the leash off.
Kicking someone out of your car is a lot different, since you own the car and it's your own personal property.
I doubt the bus driver bought that bus for himself.

Edit: Gah, Nik! I started typing my response before your's showed up.
For the record, I didn't read Nik's post and then steal some of his points. :)

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Mhm. A culture is simply a collection of people with their own beliefs and values. Freydis = Wrong. Bus Driver = Wrong. This post= utterly pointless

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"Good thing you're wrong"?

Opinion is relative, either side. Not sure there is even a right or wrong here, no doubt a bit of both.

If you consider my opinion 'wrong' because it differs with yours, kindly expect me to do the same.

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Tonic wrote:
If you consider my opinion 'wrong' because it differs with yours, kindly expect me to do the same.


I never addressed your opinions. You compared a bus driver letting
someone onto a bus with you letting someone into your car.

The bus driver doesn't have the right to do what he did. You're wrong.

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