Don't burn it.
Keep it alive as a reminder of what happens when you pit Balrogs against Cthulhu!

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And you guys are not really helping the subject at all.

Personally I loathe gallups that tend to degenerate to 'My daddy is better than your daddy' state. It deserves to sink down along with the ninjas, pirates and whatnots.

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But Serge...if my daddy were a Werewolf, and your daddy were a Vampire, then saying "my daddy is better than your daddy" would be a legitimate argument.

But when did daddy's come into the thread anyways?

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I don't think that happened until after Balrogs and Cthulu were introduced. But there hasn't been much argument against them, except for of the humorous kind.

If you loathe us for that, loathe yourself as well!

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Ryuzaki Tanaka: 7th Year Ravenclaw

I guess the topic is just hard to keep.. on, for long, since it's pretty impossible to say. Since, as it has been said, it all depends on where you get your knowledge from. *Tries.*

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'My daddy is better than your daddy' is a simplified term for a trade of words where both sides think that his/her opinion is the accurate one. Naturally these two views conflict and without exceptions results in an argument over the subject. An example would be little children over a sandbox talk about their families and compare them. There is no end to the bickering and no winner.
To prevent flame wars and such it is wisest to lock/delete open gallups before they even start.

Besides, it is rare that open gallups create any constructive discussion over the subject and are merely spam to raise the number of posts that create an image of a larger virtual organ.

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Flame wars?
I figured we were all being pretty civil here.

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So I thought until on a rather calm semi-large Finnish website had an accident with the subject 'peas or onions' starting a flame war. Better take pre-emptive measures than regret it later on.

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Just To Clarify:

Vampires

It's important to note again that each vampire clan carries different characteristics. Some vampires are said to be no more than savage, rotten, foul smelling animals, while others are almost indistinguishable from an average person. It's important for a vampire hunter to be able to recognize the enemy.

Pale Skin: Almost all vampires will be extremely pale. They are dead. No blood is circulating in their corpse. If there is no blood circulation, then there isn't any body color. Vampires look like corpses so they will disguise themselves the best that they can.

Supernatural Strength: Real vampires will have supernatural strength that will let them overpower any human without much effort. Their powerful strength gives them a survival advantage. A vampire hunter with a plan to stake a vampire in the heart must remember that in order to accomplish that task they must get close to the vampire. It has to be hard to stake a vampire after it has pulled both of your arms off.

Supernatural Powers: Supernatural powers will vary from vampire to vampire. Not all vampires have the same powers. The powers they do have seem to develop more and become stronger as they age. Some have ability to influence the lesser beings, insects, animals, and some humans. Putting them into a mind control spell, making them a slave to the vampire master. Some vampires can shape-shift into wolves, bats, dogs, mist, fogs and other night creatures. Some vampires are known to have the power of illusion. Some have the powers to make humans submit to their willpower. The smart vampire will keep their powers secret fearing that its destroyers may learn away to counter its spells and send the vampire back to hell.

Supernatural Senses: The basic senses of a vampire are extremely heightened from that of a regular human. They can hear, see, feel, smell, and taste more acutely. Some people say that's why sunlight hurts their eyes and burns at their skin. These advanced senses give the vampire more stalking advantage at night. Vampires are predominantly nocturnal creatures. They can see in the dark when their prey is blind, they can hear the tiniest sounds like the fearful pounding of a human heart, they can track using the smell of body odor or sweet perfumes. They have the uncanny ability to taste and smell fresh blood from a small scratch on their next victim's arm a mile away. Vampires are ruthless and their supernatural senses make them excellant night hunters.

Blood Drinking: Vampires need to consume blood to survive. All vampires will drink blood of some kind. Some vampires may feed on animal blood for periods when they need to keep a low profile, but when they get a change human blood is always their first choice. Traces of fresh or dried blood can be found in the corners of the vampire's mouths or in the area where it sleeps after feeding.

Fangs: The early vampires were described as having hundreds of razor sharp teeth capable of mutilating thick flesh and bones in second. Over the years, the stories of vampires changed to depict them as having only two sharp fangs capable of drawing blood out of its victims. The old vampires were savages that drank blood and ate the flesh of its victims leaving little trace behind sides a mauled, unrecognizable corpse.

Aversion to Sunlight: It's believed that sunlight will destroy vampires. It burns and scares their flesh. If they stay in the light long enough it will burn them completely to ashes. This is not a traditional belief of early cultures. This belief that sunlight kills vampires caught on less than sixty years ago in pop culture and movies and has since become a standard way of destroying a vampire. In traditional times vampires could come out in the sunlight without fear of being harmed by the light itself. However, their powers would be severely weakened in the daytime hours so most vampires probably wouldn't risk being exposed in the day. Smart vampires would stay hidden and sleep until nightfall when they would have all their supernatural powers at their disposal.

Immortality: Vampires do not age the same way that human beings age, but this can't be said for all vampires. Some vampires are said to age at about the same rate as humans while other vampire's age at a very fast rate, literally rotting away in weeks. Most vampires found in today's literature will be immortal because that tends to make for a better story. In any sense vampires are really not immortal because all vampires can be destroyed one way or another.

Werewolves

There are different types of werewolves and each type has slightly different characteristics, but most of these abilities will be true for all manner of werewolves.

In human form a werewolf is extremely vulnerable. They still have werewolf powers but they are greatly diminished in human form. A werewolf in human form would operate just like any other human being. Newly infected individuals may not even be aware that they have been infected or experienced their first shape shift. Although infected with the werewolf curse many individuals will continue living the same life - conducting the same daily routines.

The transformed humanoid werewolves are enormous supernatural creature. These werewolves are normally two to three times the size of the average human man. They are physically very muscular and range from 7 to 9 feet tall. A true version of this creature would look like a man-wolf combination with thick animal fur covering most if its massive body. The fur color and texture range from shades of brown, gray, blond and even pure white. Werewolves would be classified as carnivores (meat eaters). Not sure that there are too many vegetarian werewolves due to their predatory nature and animal metabolism.

Werewolves are extremely powerful and have remarkable fighting / killing abilities with excellent agility and endurance. The most dangerous attacks from a werewolf will come directly from the fangs and claws. In many legends a werewolf could bite or tear a person's head off in one quick attack. Like any other type of animal the teeth and claws are designed for efficiently shredding the flesh of their prey. Werewolves savagely attack with a feral insanity - this type of wild rage was also seen in human warriors like the Norse berserkers.

Legends indicate that werewolves have special regenerative abilities, which let them heal very quickly from even the most severe wounds. This rapid healing ability also seems to have a slowing effect on the ageing process of the werewolf. A full-grown werewolf will not age as fast as a normal human being. A werewolf can die from old age, but that could equal several human lifetimes.

Legends state that the werewolf has enhanced senses. A werewolf can see very well in the dark to a point where it seems that they have a type of infra-vision allowing them to see and focus in total darkness. Like most animals werewolves have an advance sense of smell. A werewolf can quickly track a target for miles based on a minor scent. The same goes for hearing. A werewolf has exceptional hearing abilities. Basically, it is near impossible to hide from a werewolf - if they want to find you then you are found. The advanced senses may also be in effect when the werewolf is in human form.

Despite the great abilities of a werewolf they are not completely impervious to injury or death. Werewolves do have weaknesses. Werewolves seem to be "allergic" to pure silver. Any weapon made of silver will inflict serious damage to a werewolf and can even kill it. Removing the werewolf's head or heart will also stop a werewolf. The werewolf will regenerate almost any other types of superficial flesh wounds.

There are many legends were werewolves are not mindless killers. Many werewolves while having all the characteristics described in this section can be reasoned with and talked to just like any real person. Werewolves are believed in many cultures to hold magical secrets and other unknown information. There are stories of people seeking out werewolves to make deals or obtain knowledge.

Werewolves are believed to be primal creatures. Many werewolves travel like nomads, but others will be led by their natural wolf instincts to seek out and join a werewolf pack. Legends maintain that werewolf packs roamed the lands and wildness hunting and hiding from mankind. A pack would provide safety, friendship and even love. It is thought that when two werewolves (male/female) mate that they have a human like child with naturally born werewolf abilities. These children grow up to be much stronger werewolves than those who were born human and later transformed into a werewolf. It is believed that most werewolf dens consist of the same werewolf bloodline. It is also believed that werewolf packs are more dangerous to nearby human societies. Animals in a pack tend to increase their levels of violence and show less fear toward their enemies. Imagine the difference between facing one single werewolf and facing a dozen werewolves.


Therefore, Werewolves win.

I just noticed that the poll is missing 1%.

Calan's rigged it!

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"The last man on Earth sat alone in a room.
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That's just from whereever you got it. Someone could say something different. I'm not saying yours is wrong, I'm just saying it can't be proven right. While Serge is right, this is a "Me daddy is better than your daddy" kinda topic, I hope we can keep it civil and avoid a flame war. It can be rather amusing, afterall. In my opinion.

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Chance summed it up rather nicely, although there are certain things lacking. For example modern day speculation on what might have caused the stories to originate and several vampire's assumed weaknesses (crosses, running water, counting of grains of sand, garlic, etc.) added mostly by the church.

Perhaps the church originated the stories to spook out the commoners to worship (and pay taxes). Or lunar madness causing men and women to go on a frenzy and mutilating, killing and eating others like a savage wolf.

Don't really have to write an essay about it right now (2:35 am). Perhaps later.

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Actually your kind of right. I just got it from somewhere that had alot on Werewolves and Vampires. I am just too lazy to type paragraphs by hand. Though I just have one question:

What kind of fight are we talking about? or is this even a fight? Is it just which is better? Cooler? etc.

It was supposed to be a fight. But I still think people would just vote for whoever they found coolest, but that's alright.

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And just so you all know, my dad is totally cooler than your dad.

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Ryuzaki Tanaka: 7th Year Ravenclaw